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Post by tats on Apr 3, 2006 11:19:32 GMT
Before anyone insists that I should not be posting on this site as I am not a member, I would like to point out that there appears to be only two or three people on this forum who have the balls to post under their own name. That is because I'm not frightened of the people at Ossett Town FC - here's a quick tip, if you can't put your name to a post then don't post you bottleless set of wankers. In Ossett, we have two football teams (Town & Albion), personally i can't see a big future for either of them until they come together as one (this will never happen in my lifetime and I'm only in my late twenties). The reason why this will never happen is due to politics in previous years and, someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I think one of the two clubs is an offshoot of the other when people within the camp became divided. Sound familiar? Without going off the point, it is customary in government that when one party isn't successful in an election then it asks the public to support whoever was successful. Now, i'm not comparing Ossett Town FC to a political perspective but surely it is time to say "OK, one way or another, things haven't worked out- let's realise what went wrong and make sure nothing like this ever happens again." You see, that's what intelligent adult people do. To come onto a forum such as this and slag off all and sundry, and being so gutless to do it that nobody dare mention who they are, is childish and pathetic. The thing that strikes me most, and I actually find this quite upsetting, is that there are parties within the club who DESPISE each other yet, on inspection, haven't actually ever spoken more than a couple of words to each other!! People HATE other people who they don't know!!! Now, I HATE the likes of rapists, paedophiles and murderers even though I don't know them but the concept of hating people who all work, VOLUNTARILY for the same organisation seems all wrong. I hope that everyone connected with the club would like the club to progress, regardless of how it is done, that is what everyone wants. Right, we have a new executive committee elected by the members- let's get behind them and all come together to move the club forward. It really is the only way. Afterall, if Ken and Deidrie Barlow can sort out there differences then anybody can!!! I know that example is from a soap opera, but quite frankly, a soap opera is exactly what the club has been over the last few weeks and now we should all want to see the lads of Ossett Town AFC pulling on the red shirts and scoring some goals.
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Post by tats on Apr 3, 2006 11:22:52 GMT
Just to point out that I am PAUL Tats, not Dave.
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Post by thomo on Apr 3, 2006 12:09:27 GMT
Paul I don't think anyone who knows you would suggest you shouldn't post on the site of course you should your opinions are valid as a supporter of Ossett Town. However a vote of no confidence regarding a proposed membership application was carried forward. The outcome of that remains in abeyance awaiting legal confirmation. If it was incorrect then the application would be refused. When you say a NEW executive committee was appointed then this is not the case as 3 remain 2 of which are in senior positions. The fact that the new committee was formed, in my opinion, against the constitution does tend to leave a nasty taste in the mouth. I would have thought that procedures adopted for an AGM are mirrored for an EGM, however a member thought differently so the vote went ahead. As for HATING people, I have no problem with admitting that I hate people who maliciuosly spread lies and untruths about me without substance. On a separate but valid note, your involvement in the local theatrical community does you credit and the recent Pantomime at the Town Hall likewise. The colour sections of the programme were printed by Richard Kelly to help another local organisation at Richard's inconvenience and without recompense. In summary the reformed/new exec are empowered to take the Football club forward the best way they see fit however I await with anticipation a reply to my letter of wednesday last.
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Post by xed on Apr 3, 2006 14:30:18 GMT
the reason why i do not use my real name on here is because i have had first hand experience of the vindictive nature of the chairman and his cosy little sunday night gang.
the move against Thomo and the other 3 was orchestrated from the very top. The chairman feared losing his position and was regularly being outvoted in committee meetings. Plus there is an element of jealousy in there because Thomo is far more popular with the footballers and is far more successful in handling the football side of the club. the chairman could not be seen to be trying to get rid of Thomo and the other committee people who regularly outvoted him in meetings, so he got his good friends Mr Voakes, Mr Hitch, Mr Saul etc plus some of the others, like Paul's dad, to sign a motion of no confidence in the committee (it had to be the whole committee who were smeared, to draw attention away from who was really behind this motion). Of course, Meg was party to this and made an exagerrated allegation against Thomo, while the other business about thomo trying to get the non members on the committee made into full members was also made out to be soemthing sinister, when all it was was Thomo exploiting a loop hole in the constitution.
Of course, the Dewsbury nonsense was a factor in all this, but the bottom line is that the chairman does not like Thomo and wanted rid of him. He got his way and god help the next person to incur his wrath.
For those who think the chairman is a good bloke really, later on tonight i will post on here a list of people who have been forced off the committee or out of the club by the chairman and his cronies.
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Post by Guest on Apr 3, 2006 14:35:58 GMT
Is there really enough web space left to post such a list?
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Post by Paul Tats on Apr 3, 2006 17:02:28 GMT
awww bless you 'xed'- does does mr firthy wirthy and mr voakesy woakesy scare you, little man? so muchy wuchy that you won't tell anybody your namey wamey? and 'sunday night club', i frequent the club on the evening of the sabbath quite regularly- sounds a bit like you do too?! I have the added bonus, however, of being reasonably impartial as i know Phil T quite well and also enjoy the company of Mr Voakes and Mr Hitch so I won't be drawn into petty personal vendettas. I genuinely do just want the best for the club, regardless of who's in charge. On a personal level though, I'd like the people who dislike Thomo AND the people who Thomo dislikes to sit down together and discuss the issues that bother them, nobody has to like each other but at least to discuss the things that "they've heard" about other people and each other. In my experience of life, on the odd occasion that people have spoken untruths about myself I've often found that the person whom it was assumed had set such rumours off wasn't actually behind the rumours at all - 9/10 it is one of the people who are telling you they heard it from someone else in the first place. If someone was saying things about me that I, either disagreed with, or thought were untruths and had been told of its source then I would approach the 'source' and ask them about it? Why not? Any idiot can listen to idle gossip but proper folk are able to talk about it- as I don't think anybody involved in these matters is an idiot in anyway shape or form I'd like to see things discussed. Maybe me being old fashioned and traditional but it sounds ok to me.
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Post by harrylime on Apr 3, 2006 20:58:17 GMT
;D young Tats would also like to" teach the world to sing in perfect harmony" while clutching a bottle of a certain teeth rotting american drink. While we are all sneering at people who won't give their names on this website, it would be fair to point out that most of the supporters who only turn up on a Saturday or most of the juniors and parents will not be familiar with some of the names being banded about, i will use young Tats as an example, everyone who comes to the club on a Sunday knows who he is, and who his father is, but a lot of people looking at this website won't know them because they don't come here on Sundays. I think that's part of the problem, people who are only here for the football see these names they have never heard of and wonder why these people are so opposed to Phil thompson and the others they are familiar with, like Richard Kelly and Graham Ricketts. I think that's why there is a feeling that it's the social side of the club who are protecting their cosy little get togethers on a Sunday night and seem to be obstructing any progress on the football side of the club. as for the list of people who left the club when they still had plenty to offer, well, maybe some of them would blame Graham Firth for their departures, maybe they would cite other people or other factors. I served on the committee a few years ago, he was probably the main reason i left, but i would also blame other people on the committee as well. I won't name them, some of them subsequently left the committee themselves after having problems with Graham Firth, i know at least one of them signed that motion of no confidence in the committee, i wonder if that person realises he was doing Graham's dirty work for him? I personally would hope Graham Firth remains chairman of the club for the rest of his life. He's that desperate to remain in control, i say let him have his way. Like scargill is in charge of the NUM for life, let Firthy run Ossett Town forever. The rest of us can get on with the rest of our lives, while he spends all day fretting over who is plotting against him now. Who's going to be the "enemy within"now, after getting rid of Thomo and Kelly? leave him to it. If i were Thomo or Kelly, i would forget about legal action, just turn up and watch the football like the rest of us and regard your departure as a lucky escape from Firthy's wacky world of paranoia. and Tats, pick on someone your own size, or xed will get his grandmother to smack you.
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Post by Paul Tats on Apr 3, 2006 22:02:47 GMT
a good point well made regarding nobody knows who i am - a tad misleading however as i've been going into the club since their wasn't a petrol station at the side of it (mmm, how many people remember that!) and when there was a BMX track down behind the goal. i played in the first quota of junior teams and, admittedly only once, got paid the amazing sum of £15 for turning out for Ossett Town Reserves at Ingfield (and we'd have got £25 if we'd won!) Maybe a few less pies and cigs and Sven might be on the phone! I used to enjoy watching the football there, and purely due to the age i was when i first came to the club, i've clocked a few hours worth of football viewing over the years that would probably excel many of the newer fans. Nevertheless, I work of a weekend nowadays though I would flatly refuse to pay the £7.00 entrance fee to watch milkmen and lorry drivers play football - (as a student I can go watch Huddersfield Town for £7, some would say that was a rip-off but it makes my point). The league state a minimum £5 entrance fee, whilst the club choose to charge £7 i'll happily only frequent the place to watch the football on SKY midweek, enjoy a bit of banter on a sunday evening and gain 2 stone eating those delicious little lollypops that are kept by the phone! Oh, and that pool table's a bit wonky on the far side x
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Post by thomo on Apr 4, 2006 8:41:27 GMT
Paul, read the post. Harry never said nobody knew who you are, just an observation that different categories of "customer" use the club at different times. The decision regarding admission prices are based on the average gate around the leagues and the fact we let our juniors in for a £1. All of whom are associate members by registering with the Juniors. I think the comment regarding milkmen and lorry drivers is hypocritical when you were quite willing to accept your £15 and many of the players on show today at Ingfield are ex-profesional or even ex-internationals.£15 far enough back for me not to remember your appearance for a reserve fixture at that, with rising league fees, fines & inflation etc should equate to execellent value from the current crop in the Unibond Premier. I would have thought someone who had been "involved" with the club so long would now qualify for Full Membership status under the 5 year social membership rule once approved by the executive committee and suggestions like all get together and discuss could be put forward. Your comments about knowing me quite well are true in terms of the Ossett town membership, in fact you know me better than most as at least you're in a position to comment on me as we have spent several hours discussing things from pantomime Dames to West End musicals whilst touching on who should win the 2-30 at Newmarket, however sadly several of the members who convened on Thursday 23rd april in the back room at Ossett Town to plan their stratefgy to oust the exec didn't have the benefit of knowing me or richard Kelly at all and that's where the problem seems to be, because the people out there who weren't privy to this "convention" are now being made aware of the facts and the only doubt in my mind is how many of the newly empowered executive committe will have the desire, courage and committment to fully investigate the facts before arriving at a conclusion based on them.
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Post by Paul Tats on Apr 4, 2006 14:42:42 GMT
Thomo! everyone knows that Les Dawson was the best dame and, if you've got a few bob lying about... have a bet on 'Horatio Nelson' to win the 2000 Guineas at Newmarket on the first saturday in May. you heard it here first...
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Post by thomo on Apr 4, 2006 16:26:52 GMT
I bow to yor superior knowledge now don't accuse me of copying!
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Post by xed on Apr 5, 2006 7:44:45 GMT
morning everyone,
i would have posted this yesterday, but there was a problem with the computers here in my office.
i said the other day i was going to post a list of people who i believe had been forced out of the club by the chairman and his mates. After i posted that message, i thought long and hard about whether this really would be a good idea. I decided not to post that list because i now realise it would not serve any useful purpose. Some of the people on that list have been wormfood for a number of years. others have broken off all contact with Ossett Town and will not thank me for dragging them back into a situation that they couldn't or wouldn't deal with in the first place. Others just want to watch a game of football, have a pint, have a laugh (usually at young Tats tattoos) but don't want anything to do with Firthy's machiavellian nonsense. After what has happened over the last few weeks with all the whispering, name calling, back stabbing and everything else, i now realise i belong in that last category, someone who just wants to watch the football and not worry about all the rubbish that goes on in the club.
I apologise if any of my previous statements on this website have helped to aggravate the situation, i think this will probably be my last message on this forum and let's hope the club can sort itself out, one way or the other, as soon as possible.
I'm glad to hear Thomo has been helping one of the new committee men to learn the in's and out's of running the football side of the club, at least that's one man who is prepared to make concilliatory moves to those who were ill disposed towards him. Perhaps Firthy and his mates could learn a lesson from that? i doubt it somehow.
good bye and see you all for the blyth game next Tuesday.
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Post by Peter Williams on Apr 5, 2006 8:52:01 GMT
Hi Phil T and Paul T, just registered with this forum to find out what's going on at the club! Needless to say I am shocked but not surprised something like this has happened. Phil, my comiserations to you if there is one person at the club I had respect for you were that person. As one of the initiators of the junior set up 11 years ago our aim was to get people with your experience into the club, yet hardly thought this would happen. Paul, as a frequent member of the Sunday night "village idiots" quiz team whilst I was still in the country, I presume something has been plotted on these nights? Please let me know whats happened as I still have alot of feelings and good memories from my many nights and days there. Phil, have just been looking on the WRCFA website and noticed your team have reached the County Cup final, good luck for that on Friday. Paul, hows the old psychology degree coming along?
I await your reply
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Post by Paul Tats on Apr 5, 2006 10:53:10 GMT
nah then squire! nice to hear from you- hope all's well in new zealand! one month of my degree to go and all's goin' ok. basically, (only my opinion) the club appeared to be divided, principally, into a "pro-move to dewsbury rams" and an "anti-move to dewsbury rams". This divide became known to most as "the 'yes' club led by Thomo" and "the 'no' club, apparently led by Graham". At some point, last week, the members upheld a vote of no confidence against the committee and a new executive committee was formed- with politics such as this, and the fact i'm not a member, means that i really don't know much else, even though Tats Senior is on the new exec it's not a topic of conversation on a family basis as neither of us wants to spend family time discussing all that caper! That's about it, it appears the matter is by no means over however, and only time will tell what happens. In my experience, it's best to let people do what they do best and Thomo seems far and away the best man to lead the football element of the club, who leads the club backstage ought to be up to the members and exec and maybe Ossett Town can progress along the lines it was doing? Just for the record, i personally would prefer the club to stay at its current Ingfield location as i think that if we struggle to get supporters in the stand now, then what makes anyone think that the people who can't be bothered making a brief journey two minutes up the road to the town centre would suddenly decide to make the half hour trek up Owl Lane. Just my opinion mind you, without a reasonable 'supporter factor' i can't see the point of 60 people in a stadium as big as that. each to there own! hope cheryl and the kids are ok, take care chief Tats
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Post by thomo on Apr 5, 2006 11:44:06 GMT
Peter Thanks for your comments and I too hope things are going well. Paul Tats has posted his opinion which has several valid points. The bit that surprises me is regarding Graham as he has been telling the exec for ages how much he's behind the move. The fact that little bits of other reasons why this or that did or didn't happen are really irrelevant, only insofar as a vote of no confidence was regarding a proposed application which remains in abeyance. On the 60 spectators front i think its pretty common knowledge if the players are better, the pitch is better, the facilities are better, the pre &post match hospitality is better the image of the club is better then crowds would becertain to improve. Mrs Coxhill & Mr Firth have had 19 years at the helm it really is time for them to do the decent thing step down and give someone else a go. Ossett Town is first and foremost a Football Club but unfortunately over the years too many decisions have been made by a beer fuelled few on a Sunday night. However there are a few positives to come out of this by the way of new people on the exec and several of the Ossett "customers" becoming aware of who the real vindictive, malicious, selfish people really are.
On the junior front things are going well with Tim firmly at the helm on the back of the great work done by you and Dennis Mills to name a couple. The lads are really looking forward to Friday night having finished runners-up 2 years ago and I hope they can do the business on the night. Sadly all this recent carry-on affects these lads aswell because from joining at age 6&7 they had a clear goal to progress into the Ossett town first team where it wasn't beyond the realms of possibility that some may play Football League either at Ossett or elsewhere. The Junior parents of 9 years ago can confirm that "PIPEDREAM" if thats what it's called but unless something is done quite quickly I fear these lads will suffer from the same sort of disillusionment as the First Team are currently experiencing.
Take care all of you and once you locate a decent U-18 set-up let me know 'cos with alittle extra time on my hands a trip to NZ may not be out of the question
cheers Thomo
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