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Post by thomo on Jun 4, 2006 21:15:22 GMT
The unanimous vote was at a previous AGM (sorry I didn't amke it very clear), a decision that appears to heave been overturned by the new exec although some don't seem to know they voted for this. As for your kids playing football depending on which age group thay are will depend where they play but by the time they're old enough and good enough to play at Ingfield they'll be old enough to make their way to Owl Lane. Nevertheless a valid point that needs airing you don't say which age group is it next seasons 17's,15's, 10's or 11's as they will play at Highfield School , Gawthorpe. The 16's at Green Park Horbury 8's & 9's at Haggs Hill 7's at Holy Trinty, 12 & 13 Spring Mill & finally 14's at Chick Tip.
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Post by richardkelly on Jun 4, 2006 21:41:29 GMT
Regarding the "Vote" to proceed or not to proceed with negotations with Tesco at the last E.G.M......... Richard Kelly in his last post said, that NO such vote took place, and yet Thommo is now saying a vote DID take place, but it was unanimous to proceed with negotiations , not suspend.... I quess Mr.Kellys' understanding of events is therefore somewhat blurred. Thankyou Mr.Thompson for at least agreeing that a vote DID take place, although the outcome is in dispute The Wakefield Express quoted the Vice Chairman as saying the Commitee has voted to suspend talks..... All this is becoming very confusing..... My kids just want to go up to Ossett and play football.... The eldest one can walk up on his own, but won't be able to do so at Dewsbury Rams ! I'm not in the slightest bit confused about whats going on at Ingfield. My recollection of events at the EGM are crystal clear. No vote to suspend the talks with Tesco was taken, it was'nt on the agenda so it was'nt even discussed. As Phil says the last vote regarding this issue was taken at the last AGM. The members voted to continue talks and to return when a solid written offer was on the table. How timely that just three days after Phil and myself obtained that offer we were voted off the Exec Committee.
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Post by Player on Jun 4, 2006 21:58:00 GMT
My god! What an astonishing offer! Ossett appear to be getting the better deal at the Rams Stadium as well. Phil Thompson and Richard Kelly appear to be very informed and on the ball regarding the matter with little or no input or replies from those in favour of suspending negotiations. I certainly hope that Tesco do not run out of patience with this ongoing saga.
Why not get a full hall together somewhere and all who will be affected can get everything out in the open and lets come to a decisive decision. An appeal to the members/committee is to not let this drag on any longer than is absolutely necessary; the club has had enough negative publicity in recent weeks. Let all sides come together to openly discuss and progress towards a final decision.
Can we not have a petition to sanction a discussion?? I'd attend and participate fully and maturely in any debate. It would create a much better and progressive atmosphere regarding a final decision and paint a better, more responsible picture of the club than the bickering on here and the stories printed in the papers are doing at present.
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Post by paul clay on Jun 4, 2006 22:08:16 GMT
After an unpresidented bout of illness and family comitments I missed all the news. and unfortunately the gala
I popped into Ossett town today with an new Id card for the new Child Protection officer. I awaited for a Junior Official but the club was deserted . I think the actions of one man could have serious problems for the club for the whole. To put it as someones small mistake when they are going to be up in front of the FA on a disrupute charge and made no co mment to papers tells its own story,. !!!!!!!!
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Post by richardkelly on Jun 4, 2006 23:04:47 GMT
The perfect place to hold such a meeting would be at the Tetley's stadium in the Royal suite.
People should be given an opportunity to see the facilities for themselves.
We should then hear from a cross section of all aspects of the Ossett Town club:
The Chairman Exec Members Full Members Social Members Members of the junior Committee Junior managers junior parents Ex and present playing staff long serving volunteers supporters Phil Thompson Richard Kelly
Dewsbury Chairman Mark Sawyer should be available for a Q&A session
A representative from Chadwick Lawrence should be invited to answer questions
After canvassing opinion and hearing the facts first hand there should be an unofficial vote before the Members are asked to make their decision.
Are there any Full Members out there who are willing to propose and second this to the club!
Do we want to be seen, at least, to be conducting our affairs in a proper manner and reaching a truly democratic decision on the future of the club?
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Post by AJP Taylor on Jun 5, 2006 8:12:44 GMT
The last AGM was early in 2005, that was when the members voted to continue exploring the different options available to the club. It was also just a few days before Dave Huggins was taken ill, so those of you in the know should be able to date that meeting better than i can. The only votes that took place at the EGM in March 2006 was the vote of no confidence in the committee and the vote to elect a new committee, where, hilariously, a number of the people we had no confidence in 10 minutes earlier, were re-elected. Good to read in the papers that we are having a AGM on Friday June 30, at least it will save the club the cost of 40 first class stamps by getting the Dewsbury RL chairman to announce it in the papers. Where did our committee learn how to run a club? The Peter Ridsdale school of football administration?
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Post by Village Idiot on Jun 5, 2006 9:39:21 GMT
Its a NO BRAINER. Enough Said.
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Post by harrylime on Jun 5, 2006 20:36:43 GMT
or better still, the Ken Richardson school of football administration ;D
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Post by Trader on Jun 5, 2006 20:51:18 GMT
Has anyone thought about the effect a Tesco Supermarket would have on the Town Centre. Who would need to go into the small shops and the market when everthing could be bought under one roof from the Supermarket Giant. There has been a lot in the press recentlyabout so called "Tesco Town's" ie - traditional town centre's and communities that have become ghost towns - the new town centre being " Tesco's" ! Don't forget once these giants have the monopoly, and no competition, the low prices will hike up high. Yes, I do have a vested interest in what I am saying, as I am a trader in ossett, and fear a Tesco in the Town would close down my bussiness and that of many of my fellow traders. We simply could not compete. As quoted from The Observer -
The supermarket that ate a town Lorna Martin, Scotland editor Sunday January 1, 2006
“In Inverness, 'dominant' does not begin to describe the extent of Tesco's stranglehold on the population's purses. The city, the capital of the Highlands and the fastest-growing region in the UK, has recently been dubbed 'Tesco Town'. No area in the country is more dependent upon one retail behemoth.” “Charles Morgan, founder of the City of Inverness Traders' Association, said the expansion of Tesco had resulted in 30 small independent shops in the city centre's Old Town closing within the last two years. I agree, a fantastic offer for those at Ingfield, but please think of the wider picture.
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Post by Player on Jun 5, 2006 21:02:59 GMT
Trader that's a very good point and one that needs to be brought up. All this discussion on here needs to be gathered up and placed under one roof at the same time where everybody with a vested interest can give their opinions, reservations et al.
Can a full member please take responsibility, stand up and propose an open debate? I am absolutely certain this is the best method to bring about a fully informed and final decision!
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Post by VFM on Jun 6, 2006 7:56:16 GMT
I personally try not to use the small shops in Ossett, i find that compared with shops in Dewsbury, Wakefield and Leeds, the range of goods is poor, it costs more to shop in Ossett, the opening hours are not customer friendly (try calling into a shop when you are travelling home after work, only the supermarkets are open), the staff are rude, ignorant, poorly trained and probably poorly paid. If i have to use a shop in Ossett, i will try and use Co-op or Somerfield if possible, as a very last resort i will use one of the local shops. I even prefer to use Barclays bank in Dewsbury, barclays bank in Ossett is populated by numb skulls who would rather talk about last night's tv than serve the customer.
I would never use the market, at least the local shops are owned by locals and employ locals, the market is run by people who live in Leeds and obstruct any developments Wakey Council make to Ossett, i would never dream of trying to obstruct any developments by Kirklees or Leeds councils, so why should these people oppose any improvements to Ossett?
I am opposed to Tescos or anyone else buying Ingfield, i would rather the club stayed in the town centre, but if Ossett needs a third supermarket, then there are plenty of other sites, such as the old RGS site near the co-op, or maybe put one up somewhere off Dewsbury road which would be more convenient for those living in north Ossett and Gawthorpe. such as that old car show room at the top of Kingsway, that would be an excellent site for a supermarket.
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Post by xed on Jun 7, 2006 7:22:53 GMT
i often have that problem, not being able to buy a bra in Ossett on a sunday i disagree with the derogatory remarks about local shops in Ossett, what we always needed in Ossett was a thomas The Tank Engine shop (instead of the newsagents that were originally there) or a shop that only sells Belgian chocolate (big demand for Belgian chocolate in Ossett evidently, might explain why some men want to buy a new bra on a sunday!) and why does the market always start packing up at around 3:30 or 4:00, when half the people who live in Ossett work outside Ossett and don't get back home until 5 or 6 o clock? some Ossett people only ever visit the market when they are on holiday. At least Tesco's, like co-op or somerfield, would stay open until 7 or 8 at night, allowing the workers to call in before going home.
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Post by harrylime on Jun 13, 2006 18:17:41 GMT
I heard something interesting the other day, it might be wrong but here goes.
One of the reasons for the reluctance of the committee to back a move to Dewsbury is that the club would have to pay compensation to the mobile phone companies for having to remove their masts and find other locations in Ossett. The club have signed long term contracts with 5 different companies (my source was not sure of the length of contract, it might have been 10 years). The club receives £25 grand a year from each company, the masts have been up say 3 or 4 years? that would mean there is 6 or 7 years left on the contract, the small print on the contract says that the club must pay the mobile phone companies for the remainder of the contract plus whatever else the phone companies have put into the small print, this would cost the club hundreds of thousands of pounds if they were to move to Dewsbury and would take a huge chunk out of the £2.5 million left in the bank after buying a half share of Ram Stadium.
Like i said earlier, this could all be wrong, but it would be an explanation for the seemingly bizarre instransigence of the committee, who would be very reluctant to admit that they made a mess of negotiating contracts with the mobile phone companies.
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Post by thomo on Jun 14, 2006 11:52:48 GMT
There are definitely contracts in place for the mobile masts along with the large advertising board which was sold by OT a few years ago. However the solicitors who were acting on our behalf are aware of this and discussions with Tescos agent have mentioned the mobile masts. The difficulty here may lie in the fact that I make the assumption that the same firm who drafted our constitution who also sent me a letter riddled with inconsistencies may have advised on the mobile phone mast contracts so we may be left high and dry after being poorly advised . Personally I think these are little red herrings that keep getting mentioned in order to try and detract from the real issues. It is obvious there will be areas that need clarification but nothing is insurmountable, for instance if the proposed Ossett Town Centre regeneration plans included a compulsory purchase order for Ingfield the masts would have to go and so would Ossett Town. Who knows what's around the corner but posting out members updates in an attempt to demonstrate openness merely confirms the fact that the left hand doesn't know what the right hand is doing.
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Post by harrylime on Jun 15, 2006 9:02:41 GMT
that's the first i've heard of a regeneration plan for the town centre (good of our 3 liberal councillors to keep us informed), the possibility of a compulsory purchase order is a worrying one, from my limited knowledge of these things, the club will not get the full value of the land if a compulsory purchase order is enacted. There's certainly no love lost between the Ossett Civic society, (who are the self appointed guardians of Ossett Town Centre) and Ossett Town AFC, they've objected to everything the club has ever tried to do with the ground, and what concerns me is that Wakefield Council (who have their own grudge against Ossett Town because we voted against the move up to Queens Drive to share a new ground with Wakefield Trinity) would push through any compulsory purchase order. I'm sure the two self employed landscape gardeners who reckon to run this club have the business and legal expertise to steer the club through this tricky minefield.
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